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Financial Freedom: Navigating Transition with Matt Dery
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In this episode of On Air & Off Script, host Karyl Morris sits down with Matt Dery, a seasoned sports broadcaster with over 30 years of experience who has successfully transitioned into the world of finances and marketing.
Now serving as a Marketing Director in the financial services space, Matt brings a unique perspective shaped by decades behind the mic, where storytelling, connection, and consistency matter. He shares how those skills now translate into helping business owners navigate critical moments of transition, especially with the launch of his own team focused on supporting leaders through change.
Matt emphasizes the importance of stepping outside your comfort zone, keeping your word, and showing up, because real relationships are built face-to-face. He breaks down how expanding your network isn’t just about who you know, but how you show up for people.
Who’s Matt Dery?
Matt Dery connects business owners and prospective clients with the right teams at Financial Architects, Inc., where he serves as Marketing Director. He oversees social media strategy, brand messaging, and internal communications, ensuring a consistent voice across all platforms. His focus is on building authentic relationships, identifying strong client fit, and creating opportunities that bring the right people together to drive meaningful results.
In addition to his work in marketing, Matt is a seasoned sports broadcasting professional with more than 30 years of experience in play-by-play, hosting, reporting, and live updates. He has built a versatile career in radio and across digital platforms, including podcasting and social media. Matt is also the host of "Locked On Lions", where he provides insight and analysis on the Detroit Lions, further showcasing his expertise and passion for sports media.
Keep Up With Matt Dery:
- Instagram: @matt.dery1
- Website: www.ffpathway.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-dery-58958a120/
Who’s The Host?
Karyl Morris is the founder of The Image Impact Group and host of The Visibility Room™: On Air & Off Script, filmed exclusively in Detroit’s ONLY visibility creative studio for high-impact leaders. With every hand-selected guest, she explores the real stories behind leadership, visibility, and influence. Through candid conversations, Karyl helps listeners understand how people build credibility, navigate change, and show up with confidence — on camera and beyond.
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When it hit about two minutes ago, I'm like, I'm gonna take the stairs and I'm gonna stand in the stands, at least in the in one of the everybody was standing, so it didn't matter if I was in the walkways or not. And I just wanted to soak in Iserman and the cup coming out. I wanted to see it in person. I wanted to see National Championship in person.
SPEAKER_00And then welcome to the visibility room on air and off script. Hey, hey, everybody. It's Carol Morris here at the Image Impact Group and the Visibility Room on Air and Off Script. And I have with me today Matt Deary. Matt, welcome.
SPEAKER_02Carol, can you believe we're actually doing this? It's so exciting. I come down to your lair here in Detroit.
SPEAKER_00The lair.
SPEAKER_02It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. Great to be with you.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. So give everybody kind of the 411 about what you're doing now because you've got a storied past, and we're going to get into that. But where are you now and who are you working with?
SPEAKER_02So I have been with financial architects for going on six, uh six or seven years. No, I'm not going to do this whole six, seven thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh Sydney's laughing back there. But in all honesty, uh running marketing and business development for this financial firm that my wife and I uh got to know and have become clients uh at since 2011. But my background was radio, sports, and everything else. And um we've started a couple of other companies since then, a succession planning firm called Q5 Experience over the years. And then recently we're kind of rolling out Freedom First Pathway or FFP, working with owners, kind of on helping them align their life, wealth, and business kind of all in one place. As you know, as a as a business owner, um, they are and you are overwhelmed with so much going on and a lot of fragmentation. So the opportunity to work with with owners to kind of align everything all in one spot is what we've been doing.
SPEAKER_00Excellent. Excellent. We're gonna dive more into that, but first we have to do the rapid fire questions. Are you ready?
SPEAKER_02We're doing this like right away.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I've you know, we're into the fire. You came to the lair, now we're in the fire. I love it.
SPEAKER_02I love it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, what's the first impression you want people to have of you?
SPEAKER_02Oh, goodness. Uh, I would say inviting. Uh, I'm a connector. I like connecting people and friendly and unselfish.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I like that. I like that. All right. Favorite. This is gonna be so obvious, but favorite way to connect digitally or in person?
SPEAKER_02In person, 100%.
SPEAKER_00All the way. How did you survive COVID?
SPEAKER_02Obviously, a lot of Zoom meetings and and a few masked meetings, but it was hard. It was definitely difficult.
SPEAKER_00It is it's rough. Like when you're a people person and you get the energy from the people in the room, yeah. Screen does not help. No, for sure. All right, what builds credibility faster are expertise, presence, or consistency?
SPEAKER_02Uh I would say consistency. Okay. I think uh you want there I would put transparency in there. Um, but if if you're dealing with folks that one minute are acting a certain way and the next minute not, and it's a guessing game, yeah. It's uncomfortable. And you don't want to be around those people. I always talk about KLT. You want to work with people that you know, like, and trust. If they're consistent, it makes it easier for you to do business with them or or to be social with them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. So because you're in the marketing and business development lane, how do you think that that transfers over to the digital space, the consistency?
SPEAKER_02That's a good question. I mean, now everything is everybody's upping their game. I mean, look, look where we are today, and what what you've put together is fantastic. People want to see it on video, their attention spans are low. So when you tell people, hey, I did this podcast with Matt Derry or or Deborah or Amber or any of the people that you've had on your show, they're probably gonna want to see those clips first and foremost, just because of our attention spans. But if it's consistent and your name is out there and you're transparent, you're like, hey, I'm Carol, and I I I like talking to people. You make it inviting. I mean, when you asked to for me to be on the show and and Sydney and I uh connected about this, this was a no-brainer. But just because I I find you to be a consistent you're consistent, you're friendly, and and everybody raves about you. So here I am.
SPEAKER_00Well, thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, what's the number one uh trust killer that you see?
SPEAKER_02Number one trust killer? Mm-hmm. Um, I I would say follow-up is is is is a killer, especially when you have folks that say, um, you know, I'll be there at four o'clock, or let's talk at five, or let's put something on the calendar and then they're not there. Or uh to me that that that hurts credibility and trust when there's not that when on there. We always talk about how and why and what and who you're talking to, but when, when, when are we gonna get this done? Is there a deadline? Um, uh, you know, accountability, huge, huge for me.
SPEAKER_00I'm a big one on to, you know, when you have a conversation with somebody, even if it's not top of mind for them, the next step, yeah, get it in the books, man. I mean, even if you pencil it in, you have to shift it, but at least get it in the books. I mean, leaving a call and not having a next step is there's a killer right there of a deal.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and you use the term trust killer. You're we're not, I'm not sure if it's a killer. And if someone says, Oh my gosh, we had this meeting and I blew it off, or yeah, I know I was on teams at 310 and it was a three o'clock and I was late. Um, but it it definitely puts it in the back of your mind. Can I would I want to work with this person? Would I want to be around this person if I can't, if they're not accountable?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Those are always uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00So all right, last question, and that is what is a leadership lesson that you have carried through?
SPEAKER_02Oh, communication, I I'm big on. I I think leaders, whether it's companies, whether it's managers, coaches, obviously my sports background, uh communication is everything. If you're a coach, uh you know, you see what JB Bickerstaff has done with the Pistons this year. Um, the guys seem to trust him and like him. The previous coach was an absolute disaster when it came to communication. You had a player that would play 40 minutes one night and then would be uh bench the next.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh same thing with with companies. You want the leaders to be transparent and communicate.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02Um, I was just uh at an event the other day that were talking about these these huddles. Do you have a daily huddle where quickly, even for 10, 15 minutes, the company, everybody gets together. Here's what we're working on today, what's going on here? And if there are deeper conversations, those lead to one-on-ones. Right. But I like that kind of communication. I think that's key.
SPEAKER_00I love that. You touched on something that I want to dig into a little bit more, which is the fact that you are a sports guy and your history is sports, sports radio, sports broadcasting, the whole nine yards. So how did you end up in the finance world?
SPEAKER_02I know, you know, it people ask that all the time. I I still do this Lockdown Lions podcast, which is a daily show, which I've been doing for 10 years, and I love it, and it keeps me in it. I do it from home. It's on it's on video and audio, wherever you get your podcast. So that still, I still scratch that sports and radio itch by doing about a 27 to 32-minute show a day, talking about the team that is easily the most popular in this town, and that is the Detroit Lions. I mean, football, football is king, yeah, as you know, Carol. But for me, uh 2016, I was on the radio, I was at a uh fledgling second sports station called Detroit Sports 105.1. The station quite honestly sucked. We all got fired and it went under. And they it's it's been uh old school rap and hip hop RB for the last basically 10 years.
SPEAKER_00Well, they were competing against the ticket, right?
SPEAKER_02And they were competing against the ticket. I had left the ticket to go to 105.1 just uh I I decided to try something new and have my own show on the middays, and um that midday show was fun. I got moved afternoons, that wasn't so fun, and uh station just it just failed. And so I got let go. Uh, my wife's birthday in March of 2016. We're supposed to go to Traverse City. We did go to Traverse City to all the wineries and stuff, spend the weekend up there for a birthday on a Friday. I got fired at five o'clock on a Friday. The the uh jackass uh program director took me into a into the heat. He took, you know, I walk out of the studio like I'm leaving. I'm gonna go pick my wife up. We're gonna drive up to TC. And instead, I got the let's go for a walk routine and the brown envelope in the conference room with our general manager and controller.
SPEAKER_03And nice.
SPEAKER_02I kind of drove home that day to pick my wife up and was like, I think it might be time to do something else. I don't know if I want to be in this radio business anymore. And I'd had a pretty decent career and and had a lot of fun or whether it was working for the Pistons or University of Detroit, ticket, DFN, worked with Stony Wojo, Valennian Foster. I mean, some of the grades. Um, but it was probably time to do something else. So I taught for three years at U of D Jesuit High School, uh, communications, journalism.
SPEAKER_00Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_02Ran the Cub broadcast, the Cub Sportscast. I loved it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I actually thought this is where I was gonna retire and stay. It was rewarding. I love the kids, the parents were great. It's a super place, but uh just in a meeting with some folks at financial architects, because we were clients there, they asked me what I knew about marketing. I said a lot. I was in radio for many years, and they brought me in and taught me the financial business as well as kind of helping run their marketing and and business development. And so I love it. I've been there for, like I said, seven years, and it's been a lot of fun. So that's how I kind of got into it. They came to me and um had some good conversations with them and thought it would be a fit to try that out. So here I am.
SPEAKER_00And I can tell too, you know, you and I just met a couple weeks ago that our initial conversation, I could tell the passion of which you speak about them and how they've done so well by you and your wife. And it was such a natural way to just jump in there and and take a chance doing something else. I and I, you know, kudos to you.
SPEAKER_03Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So now, so you, you know, you go from radio now into the financial, and now there's another entity forming, which is FFP, which stands for Freedom First Pathway. Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Working with owners, like I said before. Look, you know, there is a a missed space in this marketplace, and really nationally, and when it when an owner is feeling like, all right, I've got three to five years left, or maybe 10 years, but I don't feel like I've got all my ducks in a row here. I and then things are like we talked about, there's an owner's burden that is that is growing with them in terms of, oh my goodness, I've got one advisor, my CPA telling me one thing. We're in we're recording here on around tax season, April 15th. So I've got my tax person telling me one thing. I've got my financial advisor, she's telling me another thing. My my MA attorney neighbor is like, you shouldn't be. It's a lot. It's a lot. What if you could kind of align everything in one place? And there's a law component with Jacqueline from our team. There's a husband and wife behavioral neuroscience component. So I love that. If you're feeling overwhelmed and you maybe don't have a therapist or don't, that's maybe not for you, but you want to have that personal touch and conversation about hey, where am I at professionally here? And what if my son is ready to take over the business? But hey, guess what? We talked to the son separately and he doesn't want it. But he has a hard time looking at dad, who has, you know, changed his diapers, sent him to Cranbrook, sent him to Michigan, and made him VP at 23. You know, that's hard to have that conversation. Right. We we can help with that. Yeah, we can help with that transition. And that's uh um, it's kind of been something that we've been working on really the last few years with Q5 as kind of the Q5 now is gonna go from really more of a company to the platform for the succession side. But as far as owner readiness, owner's burden, and working with these folks on that, uh, we're here for them.
SPEAKER_00I think it's so cool too, because like like you said, there's so many moving parts when you're a founder. There's so many moving parts. And whether you've got a staff of five or you've got a staff of 500, there's a lot to think of. And it's also part of you, man. I mean, like this is something that you grew from the ground up. And so when you start thinking about what happens next, or all of a sudden find yourself in a position where you don't even like your business anymore, that feels awful. And so, in talking to you and talking to Edward a little bit, I just think that the whole premise is really exciting because it's you guys are filling in some components and some gaps that I think are really, really necessary. And the neuroscience part of it, brilliant.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Yeah, Danette and John on our team are really, really good. And Chris Cousins is kind of the quarterback of this thing. You mentioned, I mentioned Jaclyn before and Edward. It's a really good team and kind of building and growing this out because we just saw a need, like we said, yeah, in the marketplace to to do something like this, where, like you said, if an owner is have is having this feeling, he or she about how they're going about their business and it's just not rewarding anymore, or they are overwhelmed, right? Um, where are they supposed to go? Yes, absolutely. If they have a financial advisor, they have that conversation. Like I said before, the CPAs are very busy and helping. But what if there was a place, us, that that you could, you know, kind of talk to and realize, all right, there's some, there's some there's some gaps that I need to fill up. There's some blind spots that I have that when I go home and talk about uh my business with my husband or my wife, they're not gonna, they're gonna be no, they're listening. They might not some, including my own wife, which you have this blind spot, work on it. Well, how do you do that? Yeah, that's what we're doing.
SPEAKER_00And you know what, what when also when somebody is really close to you, sometimes we tune them out because we think that they don't really understand.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00And having somebody with quote unquote no skin in the game, right, that can look at it through clear eyes, right? I think that's really amazing. And then the other thing that I think is so cool about the whole premise of the thing is that it really again gives that 360 look at where your business is versus where it could be, where it should be. And then you as an owner get to decide what's next for you rather than being told what's next for you because it failed. Yeah. You get to decide. And you know, kind of on that note, and one of the things that I bonded with um Edward over is the premise of putting everything under one roof. You know, that's one of the things that we've strived to do here at the visibility room and and the image impact group is make sure that the left hand and the right hand know what's happening.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that the outcome is better. And and it's just nice to be able to make one call and have many things done. And I think that's what you guys are providing. I think that's I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_02And with you at Carol, obviously, in some of our conversations and some of our mutual friends that we have, the the fact that this can be a cool space for you down here. Uh, I say down because I was coming from Macomb County, but in all seriousness, you know, a group of women that can get together and talk. If you want to do the podcast, you can do that here. You know, you're you're offering these services where it's there's more of that one-stop shop mentality now that people want. And um, you know, again, the name, you know, freedom. We want these owners to end eventually live that life of freedom. And they don't have the pathway to to do it. Yeah, and so that's hence why the name was sort of born and and we're running with it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love it. Well, one of the things that I know about you, Matt, is that you are a very busy man, very busy manning. You know, obviously we're all connected on LinkedIn, which is you know, platform of choice for most of us, right? When it comes to business. How are you managing your online presence on LinkedIn and then also being in person so many places? Because I know that that's one of the things that you love and that you're really good at is making sure that you are, like we said earlier, tangible in person, not just digitally. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's hard. And I get asked to come to a lot of events, which I think is is cool. And there's some great organizations. I'm a proud chamber ambassador at the Troy Chamber of Commerce. It's unbelievable people. Uh, Construction Association of Michigan, Cam, Kevin and Tracy, and that crew are are phenomenal people, and we we like getting in front of construction owners. So, yes, I am still out trying to get business. Yeah, that's that's business development, that's what that is. Um, but I have found over the last few years I have folks coming over up to me saying, Oh my gosh, like you're all over LinkedIn and you're everywhere. Because I we we have these computers in our hands, yeah, and they're also cameras, and they're all so to me, if I'm at an event, I don't I look, I people make fun, they'll say, Oh, Matt Derry wants to take another selfie with me. I'm actually thinking in my head, all right, I want to be at this event, I want to help promote the folks that are there. Um, I became the head of the ambassadors just this year, the chair for the ambassadors this year. And one thing I told Amalia at Troy Chamber was, let's have, let's do something where we make the other ambassadors at least try to repost some of the chambers events and their posts on our own LinkedIn page in order to get more eyes, eyeballs on it. To me, I I want to help other people, I want to network and promote. If I so if I'm at an event, it's not about, oh, I'm in every picture. It's hey, I I I'm tagging some folks that I think people should see. Hey, uh, I saw you tagged uh um you know Scott McInerney, who's uh uh a chamber friend in the insurance business. Yeah, how well do you know him? That's how you you do business, and like I said, no like and trust and connecting. Yeah, so I try to do that, and and yes, I am exhausted. My wife, I would say two or three times a year, my my wife Heather will say, You're are you oh my gosh, I looked at your schedule this week. You're you're way too much stuff. Because then I get home and do my lions show. So it's there are some long days, but yeah, I really enjoy it and I like being around people and I think it's helping the companies too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I always say rather busy than bored. Right. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Yeah, and there's so many cool things to do, you know, whether it's here in the city of Detroit or Troy or or wherever. And, you know, we were locked away for, you know, way too long. So I think everybody, I feel it when people come in here, they're like, oh, thank God we're like back, fully back in action and and getting the energy from one another. I think that's huge. It is.
SPEAKER_02And and for you to be down here, uh, like we said, in the city, uh, Carol is awesome. I think yeah, certainly every city has some amazing suburbs, um, whether you're going north, west, or east here in Detroit, or heck, if you're going south to Windsor, got to shout out our friends in Canada. I love Canada. Um, but to be back in the city, my goodness, I mean, your space here is awesome and just the vibe in this town is is unreal. I, you know, I you and I were talking when I walked in here, but in 1996 in August, I moved here to work at Sports Radio 1130 WDFN. Our building was Joseph across the street, Joseph Campbell and Woodbridge in this tiny garage. The old W4 building was the house next door. That was where Howard Stern worked for country.
SPEAKER_01Really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, W4 Country, many years before I got here.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_02Um, when he was in Detroit. But we were in this garage, but we, you know, I drove by your building because of course I missed it. But there's so many more things, like there's so many more places to eat.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, if we had had all the food down here on Woodworth, on um Jefferson, uh, I probably would have gained 10 more pounds working at the radio station here. But it's cool. You see the dynamics of of being in the in the city, and I think it's great that you're down here.
SPEAKER_00Well, speaking of the city, I have my magic bowl here.
SPEAKER_02Oh, here we go.
SPEAKER_00And in this bowl are some questions maybe about the city, maybe about something completely irrelevant. So I'm gonna let you pick.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00And if I don't like what you picked, I'll pick.
SPEAKER_02I love this.
SPEAKER_00But I will say I have chicken scratch, so I you can just hand it to the wrong.
SPEAKER_02I'm reading your writing.
SPEAKER_00No, you can just hand it to me and I'll read my writing. Otherwise, we might be here all day.
SPEAKER_02I didn't bring my readers. Exactly. I'm in my 50s now, Carol, so I I gotta have my readers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I like this one. Okay. What's the lesson you learned the hard way?
SPEAKER_02Gosh. Uh, what was what's the lesson? What's a lesson I learned the hard way? Um I was very young when I got married the first time.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_02And uh, you know, we don't need to go under the whole divorce discussion. It's been 20 years actually. Uh, and I like I said, I got remarried in 2011. But um, a lot of times I did hear folks tell me, and it wasn't a we're warning you don't get married at but the the notion of you know, your brain's not really fully formed till you're like 26. Yeah. And, you know, I was rushing into a lot of things when I was younger because I was I was hungry. I I wanted to be on the radio, and I was on the radio as a college student at 19 years of age at Syracuse. So the minute I got out of school, you know, I my parents, one of I don't know if it was my mom or my dad were like, would you ever want to maybe take a gap year, or would you want to go like see the world or maybe even go overseas or check out Europe or something? I'm like, no, no, no. I gotta find that first radio job. It ended up being in Cleveland for a year, then Detroit, been here ever since, like I said. And so I kind of learned the hard way that I rushed some things when I was younger. Yeah. Including, look, I've got two beautiful children from my first wife, but I was probably so young and dumb as a 24, 25 year old that I didn't take my time. And now I tell my my son's gonna be 25 in May. And uh, you're in no rush to do this or do that. Yeah, enjoy it. Your your your younger years before, and I think I kind of learned that the hard way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, before your knees hurt.
SPEAKER_02Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00That's me every day.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Are we doing another one?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. How many things to do here, Matt? I hope that's not the same one I just put back in. Let's see.
SPEAKER_02Your writing is uh immaculate. Well is that cursive?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02Maybe it is chicken scratch.
SPEAKER_00All right. Can I read it? Let's see. What's something you're wildly unqualified to give advice on?
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_00Um unqualified.
SPEAKER_02Unqualified.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh home building, construction, uh, handyman things when it comes to like I know about the sump pump. That's a big thing at our house.
SPEAKER_00That's a good thing.
SPEAKER_02I'm kind of a sump pump expert. I know about our backup. I know I've got to pour some bleach down there pretty much once a month. Make sure the things get clean. But when it comes to being handy and, you know, hey, we're gonna redo the roof.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're not gonna see Matt Dairy up now.
SPEAKER_00Not your gig, huh? Not at all. Okay. Oh, all right. This is the perfect one. And I didn't even cheat. I actually really pulled it. All right, ready? Yes. A Detroit moo moment that you'll never forget.
SPEAKER_02Ooh, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_00I feel like it's gotta be about sports. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02There are a couple. There are definitely a couple. Uh I was in the building in '97 when the Red Wings won the cup. I was working at WDFN and growing up in Cleveland, where we never won anything. I mean, they finally had won a championship in Cleveland in 2016 with the Cavs, but as a big Guardians slash Indians fan, we have never won it. And since 48, my father was six years old at the time. And so to be covering the wings team that finally had won the cup in 97, uh, there were way too many seats in the press box for the us radio guys come cup finals to be there. So we were basically down in the in the bowels of Joe Lewis Arena. But when it hit about two minutes ago, I'm like, I'm gonna take the stairs and I'm gonna stand in the stands, at least in the in one of the everybody was standing, so it didn't matter if I was in the walkways or not. And I just wanted to soak in Iserman and the cup coming out. I wanted to see it in person. I wanted to see an actual championship in person. And then the 04 Piston team, I was doing the pre and post-game shows on the radio for 12 years. Our third year on the radio doing the pistons when I was at DFN, uh, they won the championship. So that was a really unbelievable memory. We uh post-game show probably didn't come on until 12:30, and it got to about 3, 3:30 in the morning. And we're like, why don't we just go till 6 a.m.? There's no point in only doing a couple hours. So we went until six in the morning when the morning show came on. So I went home and went to sleep that day. But those two, those are just two memories that I think are are pretty cool that I always remember.
SPEAKER_00Well, you know who's left out of that championship, don't you?
SPEAKER_02The Lions. Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Guess what's gonna happen this year?
SPEAKER_02Are you calling it? I'm calling it Super Bowl Champs?
SPEAKER_00Super Bowl Champs.
SPEAKER_02Carol Morris. All right, I'm not I'm gonna have to mention that on Locked On Lions, too. Oh my gosh. I was talking to my friend Carol Morris, and she says the Lions are gonna win the uh win the Super Bowl. Do you have a reason or you just think it's time?
SPEAKER_00No, I it's just time.
SPEAKER_02Are you a sports fan?
SPEAKER_00I am a Red Wings diehard fan, but I became a Lions fan two years ago.
SPEAKER_02So you've hopped on the bandwagon.
SPEAKER_00Of course.
SPEAKER_02Look, uh the Lions, most Lions fans have have been through it, yeah, you know, and they really have. And it's incredible the amount of folks I talked to that said, oh my dad had the tickets, or passing them down, or I was at the O and I didn't miss a game when they went to ON16. I'm still here. It was interesting when I was doing the pod and the Patricia and Quinn era from a few years ago, five, six years ago. Uh there were I had a lot of listeners that found me and said, I stopped listening. I'm like, what did I do? And they're like, No, it's not you. Not you. The team is so unlikable, and and the general manager is so smarmy, and the head coach is such a jerk that they were done. Yeah. And then obviously the new regime with Sheila and uh Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes and everybody and Chris Spielman, they've done a great job. So people are energized. I mean, they went nine and eight last year, and people are pissed that they didn't make the playoffs and finished with a winning record record, but still was disappointing. So I'm with you. I think they'll bounce back, but not ready to call my shot yet on Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_00But well, you know what? I I am an eternal optimist. All right. I like it. And when the Red Wings lost Iserman, I remember I friend was like, they're never gonna be anything without Iserman. I said, they're gonna win the cup. And lo and behold, they won the cup.
SPEAKER_02They did. They won a couple without it.
SPEAKER_00Yes, they did. Yeah, yes, they did.
SPEAKER_02For sure. Are you angry? Are you like, are you ticked off right now? Because this has not been good.
SPEAKER_00Uh I well, here's the thing. So my son played college hockey. So for the last five years, I've watched him. And so I have not watched a lot of Red Wings games. I haven't been really in tune with it in the last couple of years because I'm busy. But this is my first year as a non-hockey mom, so I gotta get back on the where did he play? Arizona State. Wow, yeah, they have hockey out there, they do, they have D1 hockey, hockey in the desert.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that is really cool.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was very cool. It was it was fun, it was a it was a great way to spend his years.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, that's school. They have a good time out there. I have I have had some former students that went to ASU and uh they that they can party out there. Oh my gosh, that's a fun place. Oh my god, I love it.
SPEAKER_00Well, and as far as the pistons go, yeah, I was a bad boy's era at Piston. So I used uh my very first dog was named Joey Dumars.
SPEAKER_02That was the name of the dog, yeah. Full name?
SPEAKER_00I like Joey Dumars Morris, yes. Absolutely. Okay, okay, yeah. That's really cool.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, legend. I mean, Joe, you know, obviously uh won a championship as a player and as an executive with the team. And yeah, um, amazing that uh those those memories of the oh my god, yeah. How likable the the bad boys era and obviously the go-in to work teams, and now this team now this year is really good. Yeah, really good. It's it's nice to watch, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, shout out to Sydney's husband who works for the Pistons.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, and Sydney as well. She's with the crews and a part of the Piston family, so there's something absolutely they all arrived.
SPEAKER_00You guys can't see her, but she's doing all the magic we had this podcast, and right now she's turning bright red. Oh, geez, and sweating up a storm because we're talking about her.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you got a shout out. I mean, she's gonna be busy, they're gonna make her work. Oh, she's giving us the wrap up. She's wrapping us up, they're gonna make her work during the playoffs. It's gonna be busy, but it'll be fun down at the down at the LCA.
SPEAKER_00So oh my god, too funny. Well, Matt, like you said when you first walked in, we could probably make this two hours ago. I know I commit to not doing that to poor Sydney.
SPEAKER_02Carol, I I appreciate being here. This is a lot of fun, and I I've obviously caught some of the uh previous episodes of some of our mutual buddies, and uh, those are great people. So they're all saying, You don't know Carol Morris? I said, I don't. There's somebody you actually don't know. I said, I don't.
SPEAKER_00And I was incognito for a couple of years. I'm back.
SPEAKER_02Checked you out, and uh uh people need to like and follow and check out everything that Carol does.
SPEAKER_00So well, thank you. Gosh, well, I don't need to wrap this up because Matt just did it for me. So thank you so much. You're welcome. But yeah, every everybody that's out there, you know, thank you for dropping by and make sure to watch uh Matt's show as well. Connect with him on LinkedIn, look for him out and about because he is probably there.
SPEAKER_02I need to crash one of your women's events down here. Oh my gosh where like one guy could walk in and go, hey, yeah, hey, Matt's here. Right. I'd love to uh I'd love to hang out sometime.
unknownThere you go.
SPEAKER_00All right, you guys. Well, thank you so much for stopping by. Make sure to like and follow, as Matt said, and we will see you another time.