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Finding Your “Why” With Adam San Juan
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In this episode of On Air & Off Script, host Karyl Morris sits down with financial advisor, author, and publishing company owner Adam San Juan for a conversation centered on purpose, legacy, and intentional living.
Adam’s approach to both life and business became rooted in one core belief: everything should be done on purpose. Throughout the episode, Adam breaks down why understanding your “why” is essential, not just in finances, but in every decision you make. Whether he’s guiding clients through financial planning or helping aspiring authors bring their stories to life, his philosophy remains the same: move with intention, not by accident.
Who’s Adam San Juan?
Adam J. San Juan is a financial advisor, consultant, and author who works with business owners, retirement plan committees, and individuals navigating important financial decisions. He specializes in 401(k) and employer-sponsored retirement plans, helping organizations structure, evaluate, and improve their plans while also supporting participants in making more informed choices about their future. At the core of Adam’s work is a simple belief: good decisions start with clear understanding. Rather than jumping straight to solutions, he focuses on diagnosing what’s really going on—how a plan is built, how people are using it, and where gaps or inefficiencies exist. This allows him to provide guidance that is practical, relevant, and grounded in real-world behavior. What matters most in his work is helping people see things more clearly—whether that’s a business owner trying to improve their plan, or an individual trying to make sense of their financial path. His goal is not just to provide answers, but to create clarity, confidence, and direction in moments that often feel complex or overwhelming.
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Who’s The Host?
Karyl Morris is the founder of The Image Impact Group and host of The Visibility Room™: On Air & Off Script, filmed exclusively in Detroit’s ONLY visibility creative studio for high-impact leaders. With every hand-selected guest, she explores the real stories behind leadership, visibility, and influence. Through candid conversations, Karyl helps listeners understand how people build credibility, navigate change, and show up with confidence — on camera and beyond.
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Five years ago when my stepfather passed away. Uh he was in uh in Henderson, Nevada, and I was sitting here at the church and and behind me. I didn't want to turn around at the time. And I ultimately did turn around, but I heard somebody say, How much are you gonna get? And I was like, dang.
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the visibility room on air and off script. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. It is Carol Morris here at the Image Impact Group and the Visibility Room on Air and Offscript. And today I have with me Adam San Juan. Adam, hello.
SPEAKER_03Hey, how are you?
SPEAKER_00I am good. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_03Good.
SPEAKER_00Good. I am going to let you do a quick introduction of who you are and what you do. And I know that the other day you mentioned something to somebody, and it was so great. Oh my god. They had you write it down.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, absolutely. Yes. So I'm a financial advisor and I'm also an author. I don't know, a publishing company called Argo Publishing.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03But I wrote this down and somebody asked in a networking environment exactly what is it you do as a financial advisor? And I try to put it in context. And I said this I said, imagine uh waking up, checking your accounts, and seeing enough money that you actually exhale for the first time in years. That weight off your chest gone. That's the kind of stuff that I solve. And I think everybody has a version of weight on their chest. So how does that relate to the books? Yeah. It has everything to do with friction and conflict because usually it's those things that prevent somebody from moving forward. Right, right. So I would be, I'm happy to talk about whatever you want to talk about. Um, but I I think the books are the basis for why I'm such a good financial advisor.
SPEAKER_00So one of the cool things is that you know you discovered writing and helping others write through through financial advising strategies, the way you look at things, the way that you hear things, the way that you absorb things. And we're gonna talk about that in a minute. Okay, but first, yes, but first, I have some rapid-fired questions. Love it. All right. What first impression do you want others to have of you?
SPEAKER_03Um, great question. Uh I think it would be health, oddly enough. Oh. Because when you walk into a room, people are actually listening with their eyes. And so I think everybody advertises something. It's like walking to a house, and the first thing you see is what's in their living room, what's in their first line of sight? Yeah. Sometimes you walk into a house and there's this wall, like, what the heck is this wall doing here? But then you take a peek in their living room. Is it a TV? Is it a portrait of their family? Is it a mantle?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Is it a table? So for me, I I guess as a financial advisor, I want people to know I'm gonna be around. Oh, yeah. Right. And and so um, I want people to say that guy takes care of himself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And if he can take care of himself, then he's somebody that I can see taking care of me. Right. And it's it's like my doctor saying, Yeah, yeah, don't smoke. Yeah, it's horrible for you. It's so bad. No, no, I so I I try to walk the walk, talk to talk to all those wonderful things. And so uh all the financial practices that I put into play, it's a series of trophies and scars that I've accumulated myself and um that I like to share with people. And so I would say it that would be it. It's just a walk into a room, I want them to say, God takes care of himself. Or it let's take it even bigger. Yeah, I think everybody should walk into a room saying, um, with with this idea, I I hope people can see me in front of their clients. I hope someone can see me and say, I can, he's somebody I can introduce to somebody. And there are a lot of people that are tone deaf to that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right?
SPEAKER_00Well, it's interesting because I often say this to people do you walk in like a solution provider or the problem problem that they're trying to solve for?
SPEAKER_03I'll take it even a step further. You know what? What do you walk in as are you sunshine, are you a dark cloud? And there are people whose attitude just drag down a room thinking, oh my gosh, the temperature changes when you walk into a room. And then everybody should actually take that very seriously because that actually determines whether or not you get invited back or if you, you know, you know, are effective.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so I have four more.
SPEAKER_03Go.
SPEAKER_00And these are quick, rapid fire. So they're they're one to five words. Are you ready? Go. Favorite way to connect with people, in person or digital?
SPEAKER_03In person.
SPEAKER_00All right. What what builds credibility faster? Expertise, presence, or consistency?
SPEAKER_03Consistency.
SPEAKER_00What's the number one trust killer you often see?
SPEAKER_03Lack of eye contact.
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SPEAKER_00Wait, what? Yeah. What's the number one leadership lesson that has stuck with you?
SPEAKER_03Don't manufacture silence.
SPEAKER_00Now I have to ask. Tell me more.
SPEAKER_03This actually happened in a meeting where I was watching a manager uh uh behave or respond to a question that an employee asked. Employee said, I have a question, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Unless it was about a spreadsheet or something like that. And um the the the boss said, Are we still on that? Oh. And I'm exactly. And that person shrunk. Yeah. And it it led me to something that I've been teaching for a long time, which is uh leaders who don't listen will ultimately be surrounded by people who got nothing to say. And and and it's remarkably powerful because when I saw that room and I I I watched the vibe, and the temperature changed, everything changed in that room. And what what what happened was I said he manufactured an environment that was not safe for anybody to ask questions. Yeah. And as a result of that, he thought everything was fine. Guess what? Nobody's complaining. Everything is good. I I think friction is good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, you can't be afraid of it as a leader. Right. But it when they get that quiet, I get nervous. I said, I want you to talk. We talked about that earlier. I want there to be a vibe. I want there to be, I want you to disagree with me. Yeah. And we'll learn something from it. And we have to do that with grace. The problem is when I see it, when I'm in rooms, I look for uh whether or not people escalate or they shrink. And I don't want either to happen.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03I want there to be dignity in the room. I want there to be, you know, what confidence that you're go ahead, ask that question, but I'm not gonna shame you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, when you said that, I literally was like, it takes you back.
SPEAKER_03It does, and it's it's a it's it's almost a sad thing to see if you think about it. It's demeaning. Uh and and and sometimes leaders do that, they don't even realize that. But now I call those ego spikes, right? It's like, oh okay, I'm you know, it sounds like you're challenging me. So guess what? I'm gonna try to find a way to shut you up in a very professional, smiling assassin kind of way. I don't like it. Uh but yeah, that's that's my take on that.
SPEAKER_00Wow. I that that is a great take, first of all. And secondly, I I mean it really did. You took me back by by by saying those words. So I can imagine if that was really me in the discussion, how I would feel. And you're right, you just you're shut down.
SPEAKER_03You're shut down.
SPEAKER_00Why why would you say anything anymore?
SPEAKER_03Uh people respond to authority in different ways. People respond to friction in certain ways.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And they get caught. And and I think leaders misinterpret silence.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. This is a great segue into one of the things I wanted to ask you about because you do write about so, and and first of all, caveat for you know, when we first jumped on, it is interesting that you're a financial planner that has this love for writing. And again, not only your writing, but helping other people get there as well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But take me back to, you know, you write about awareness and environment and decision making.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00How did that become the foundation of your work? Where did where did that come from?
SPEAKER_03Well, you know, it's something that I've been practicing for a long time. Yeah. And I, you know, uh, I had somebody in uh Mount Clemens, she's a dear friend, and she, you know, shoved me to do this. She goes, Adam, you know, you're all you know, big hat, no cattle. Like, all right, gotta do it. So um and um she knows who she is. I'm not gonna name her, but uh, she's she's awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Now uh that being said, the precipice behind the books, how I was born, was about five years ago when my stepfather passed away. Uh he was in uh in Henderson, Nevada, and I was sitting here at the church and and behind me. I didn't want to turn around at the time, and I ultimately did turn around, but I heard somebody say, How much are you gonna get? And I was like, dang. And and and of course I found out who it was, and it didn't surprise me who it was, but for me, I it got me thinking about legacy. And I I'm probably worth more dead than I'm alive just from a straight fiscal and insurance standpoint. Yeah, but it the question stuck to me as to, all right, if if something were to happen to me, what am I gonna leave my kids? And I didn't want it to be a pile of money. Yeah, I wanted to be, yeah, dad taught us something, and we're gonna carry that forward. So I said, all right, what were the what have I been preaching to them since the dawn of time?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03There were three things. It was, you know, just you gotta know your audience. Second thing, you gotta surround yourself with really good people. And then the third one was, you know what, you have to have a process for making good decisions. Do those three things. And I said, You're not gonna be rich. I can't certainly guarantee that. Yeah, but you'll be a decent human.
SPEAKER_00Right, right.
SPEAKER_03So I I then took a different spin at that. I said, okay, so what are those three things? I said, What are you looking at? And I said, actually, I've just kind of pinned down how to handle conflict. And conflict comes in three forms man versus man, like you know, me versus you, understand your audience. The second one was man versus environment. What am I doing here? Right. And then the third one was, what was I thinking, man versus himself. Yeah. So I um put a rough draft of the manuscript together, talked to my editor, she said, write the first chapter, which was man versus man, and it came out to be about 260 pages. And she goes, You're not gonna write a 750-page book, no one's gonna read it. It's gonna firstly be expensive, it's gonna look like this, and people are just gonna be intimidated by it. She goes, You accidentally wrote three books. I'm like, hello, first world problems. So yeah, I put that first book out there and it went really well. And it's called, and they're all in questions. Yeah. So there's a theme to that. And I call it the human series. The first book is called Man vs. Man, right? It's not called Man vs. Man, it's called What Are You Looking At? The impact of um answering and uh and um how it changes everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03The second book was uh this is my favorite. Uh it's called What Am I Doing Here? That's the second question. Oh, which is uh a guide to the unseen influences of your surroundings.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03And then the last one was, What was I thinking? And that was just you know having that process. Um and that one just came out uh probably about um three months ago. Oh wow. So the human series is done. Yes. Took about four years to put together. And um I get a lot of traction out of those.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But that helps me as a financial advisor because now when I walk into room and it's like, all right, what's the boogeyman here? Right? Yeah, yeah, I and I try to understand what's the friction and and and what has caused somebody to get into the situation they have. And it's either because they failed in one of these three conflicts. Either they have no clue about the audience, they have no idea about their surroundings, or they have zero process for making good decisions. Right. Those three things equal disaster. But if you get those three things right, you can walk into a room, conflict can show up, and guess what? You're probably like, yeah, I'm good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because I have a process for those.
SPEAKER_00And it's such a great gift to give to your children. And I I hear what you're saying, it's it's it's nice to leave them a financial legacy. That is nice. Yeah, but more than anything, I think as parents, our job is to make them decent human beings. Oh, and the gift that you can give through um through not only words, but examples of how to leave your life, live your life, and how to lead your life. And to be able to watch not only how those words pertain to them, yeah, but also how they pertain to your clients and how they pertain to maybe their clients in the future.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00And that's the ongoing legacy.
SPEAKER_03Well, interesting thing about the clients that I have is when I think about those three things and how I write. I don't write for conclusion, I write based upon observation. Like this is what I observed. I am not a clinician by any stretch. I have no formal training in human behavior. Yeah, I have, you know, I don't have those crazy suffixes, but I've I've watched people for such a long time. I've studied people for so long. It's like this is my take on it. It's a very humanistic approach. If you were to read these things, it's like you're sitting with Adam and you're having a beer in your hand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so uh I would say that observation is the main thing. And I think people aren't sure exactly how to watch people or look for patterns. Yeah. And after you've done it for a while, and you have to practice it like anything. Yeah, absolutely. And you say, okay, um, I can now understand where my customer is coming from. When they walk in, you can if you should be able to determine if they're appensive or if they're relaxed, you can also be able to determine who's the alpha in the room. Yeah. You should be able to look back and say, okay, so that's how that person thinks, or that's how that person thinks. But you connect all that, then you can have an effective meeting and say, okay, right, the solution I have is customized for you. Exactly. It's not clinical, it's personal. Right. And that goes that there usually goes a long way. They say, Wow, you really thought about this. Like, yeah, I definitely thought about it.
SPEAKER_00I think that's I think that's huge. And I'm glad to hear somebody talk about it like that. And a lot of times, you know, when it comes to finances, it feels already feels really heavy. And then if you feel like you're gonna walk into a situation where it's gonna be clinician, it's going to be this is what you do, this is what you do, this is what you do, which all might be the right things. Yeah, but it's how the approach is taken, how how you're dealt with on a human basis that makes you feel comfortable or not comfortable.
SPEAKER_03Comfortable is a great word. Yeah, somebody said uh we we had this conversation about you know what superpowers do people have. Yeah. And uh she said, You know, you know what superpower you have? And I said, What's that? This is this is interesting. What's that? You have the ability to disarm. I'm like, that's good. Now, how does that relate to finance? You know, people um I don't know what it whoever's got their finances order, they're not proud, like, yeah, look, I got my finances order. No, they don't. As a matter of fact, most people are ashamed of their finances. So the ability to disarm says, look, you can talk about anything. Um, and once they feel comfortable, yeah, then they can say, This is the reality of my situation. Well, thank you. Now I can help.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03But you know, if somebody walks in tentative and ashamed, my job is to say it's okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And that superpower of being able to disarm comes into play. But how are you able to disarm someone? Well, you better understand the conflicts. Right. Right? You better know what you're looking at. You better understand. You did you create an environment that's conducive for them to actually open up?
SPEAKER_00And then the last thing is this, you better understand how they think. Yeah. So your books often challenge people.
SPEAKER_01They do.
SPEAKER_00And they're it's challenging their thinking. So, what's one realization that tends to hit hit readers the most?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's I love this question because um, by the way, all three of the books on the human series, I I challenge everybody to dig in and find the Easter eggs connected with that. But what happens is when you read the books, you go, okay, so the first one is what are you looking at? It's like like a what do you look at? So, and yeah, it's almost like outside looking in what is this? That's almost offensive. But then somewhere around page 39, they go, Holy crap, this is probably about me. Like, yeah, exactly. I I wrote it that way to where as human behavior is, it's not me, it must be you. So let me read this book at a lens of this I'm me judging you. But then it actually is like there's this weird mirror effect where you look back and you say, Oh, I think this is about me. Good, because it is about you. You have to first seek to understand before being understood. That means you check yourself first. Yeah, and I would tell you that the people who read the book thinking that they're not the problem that and and the other person is, I think they read it wrong. But most of the people who've read my book say, Yeah, this kind of splinter around toward me around page 39, and the second book somewhere around the mid part. I'm like, oh, then it did it's it's a it did its job.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What's also fun about those books is that it's very atomy. Uh, you can definitely read it and say, Yeah, this guy's a child of the 80s. And you it does some music references, there's just some things that timestamp me, but that's also on purpose. Um uh and and I I want these little nuggets uh for the reader to actually step on or pick them and go, oh, is this that's interesting. Here's something that's also interesting about the book. Yeah, every all three books has one page that has two words on it on purpose. And I that is not an Easter egg. There you go, it's it's out there right after the epilogue, you'll see it. Uh, and and really what what it's trying the prologue, what it's trying to do is say that every single word, every single paragraph, the way it's structured is 100% on purpose. And uh I think everybody should do whatever they do on purpose. When I work with my writing clients, uh I I challenge them. And this is an analogy, but I would ask them after we go through a chapter, why is there an ottoman in the bathroom? And I'll say, What do you mean? Like something's out of place here. And they say and they say, Oh, it's on purpose. And I'm like, Explain that to me. And they do, and I'm good, believe it. But if you say, Oh, I don't know, then that's a mistake. Yeah, you know, I don't like mistakes. I'd rather say I built it on purpose.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's an interesting statement. I don't like mistakes because mistakes do help us learn and they do make us human.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If you can switch it to on purpose, even in your brain, right? Like it's just it's almost a mindset thing, right? So and it's uh it's uh almost like a what do I want to say, like a call and return, right? Yeah. If like you said, if you if I can say, well, ottoman in the bathroom, that was on purpose, and I can explain it, then hey, that might be a mistake to you, but I can justify it, and I can justify it with purpose. And you can def and justify it, defend it.
SPEAKER_03Yes, because let's say we're gonna work with my writing clients, and I I always envision them on a podcast or on stage or fielding questions. And somebody says, Hey, Anthony, why was there an Ottoman and bath? And you go, There was, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Like, ooh, that's yeah, then your streak reads boom, boom, and and somebody else says, Are we still on that? Yeah, which is like, yeah. And and I don't want any of my and the thing is, you know, for the people who help write, you know, my my publishing company's on the back. And I I it's got my name on it too. So I'm I just want to make sure that you don't get caught flat footed. So be intentional about it. You know, it's interesting when my writing clients always tell them, hey, just you know, I hope we can be friends after this. Yeah, because I am going to challenge you. It'll come out nice. I mean, our job is to bake a nice chocolate cake, right? Then there's a process.
SPEAKER_00But you know, as a person that works with people and you're working to help them get to a new level, your job is not to be a yes person. Your job is, and my job sitting here and what I do is not to make people feel necessarily comfortable in that moment because comfortable doesn't make you grow.
SPEAKER_03I love that you said that. So one of the phrases, and you'll you'll see this in the third book, is you know what, I'm far more concerned about my kids' character than their comfort. You know, and that is something that I've lived by when I coach girls fast-pitched softball. I was like, I don't care if we lose the game. I said I want to make sure you're confident, you know, and that you know, you just all the three things that we talked about there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh, and and that meant that I'm gonna be far more concerned about your character than your comfortability.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and you have to be uncomfortable to grow. You have to be.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, yeah, I appreciate that, and that's what that third book is about. Is I how do you actually grow? And I it's more of a mindset than it is. I watch people, I put myself in good environments, but if you have a crappy way of making decisions, you'll never grow.
SPEAKER_00I the Ottoman thing is gonna stick with me for a long time. I'm gonna move out of it. That's something I noticed about your place.
SPEAKER_03I mean, on the camera and take a look. Everything you put and that's something that we talked about when I first came here. It's like everything is put in place for a reason. I asked you about the wall, I asked you about the sofa.
SPEAKER_00I asked you all.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I thought about that.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_03It was on purpose.
SPEAKER_00It's on purpose. Not random. No, it is not. Love it.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00All right. Another question for you. You're involved with both businesses. So financial and writing, how has your real-world experiences really shaped the idea that you choose to explore? So the ideas that come to you that you want to explore, whether it's in your business of financial work with clients, or maybe even another book idea.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00How do you go about it? You don't go looking for it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes you, if you let it happen organically, the story that's going to show itself, what you're supposed to write, will actually show itself. I think if you say, I'm looking for the, then you shut everything else out when what you're supposed to write, what you're supposed to solve was already there. And so I we talked about it earlier. I don't like going to say, hey, we're gonna see a movie. What is it? Don't know, it don't care. Just walk in and I will discover it.
unknownI love it.
SPEAKER_03What's so crazy is that when I was writing the first book, uh, I was pretty much in a good spot. I said, I'm ready to send this to the publisher. And then I went to church with my daughter in Brighton, and the pastor said something that I thought was that has to be in the book. And so I didn't expect that, but that changed. Everything about the book because once I inserted that, that changed the surrounding chapters, which ultimately had an influence on the cover.
SPEAKER_00Isn't that interesting?
SPEAKER_03Didn't see that coming. I was already set in my ways. And I think if there's anything that I could encourage people to do is just be remarkably curious and and and keep your ears and eyes open because what you're supposed to do will probably show itself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I love that you said it just showed up and I didn't expect it.
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SPEAKER_00Because now you get to reach inside the bowl and then hand me what you find. Okay. So these might be these might be about Detroit.
SPEAKER_03Oh boy.
SPEAKER_00They might be questions that are completely irrelevant.
SPEAKER_03Do it.
SPEAKER_00And they might be something that we go do.
SPEAKER_03Before you open that, I can tell you right now, I love this. But this this is good. There's some people that would just be horrified in this environment because of the way they were built. And stuff with no, this is good. Everybody should be able to do this. I hear you. And of course I'm going to fail now, right? No, you're not.
SPEAKER_00A hill you'll die on. What's one thing that you know to your core that you are not changing?
SPEAKER_03Uh oh, that okay. So let's let me just think about that briefly. What I'm not gonna change, I'm not going to change challenging myself to understand your point of view. I will never do that because I've been wrong so many times by judging people, which honestly is really like the basis of the when you read the first book, like, man, Adam's an ass. Oh but when you read, like, yeah, well, you know what, we we figured that out, but it just continues to show me that I'm so wrong about people so much that I got good at being right about people, which means that I will never put myself and my judgments in front of that. I don't know everything, I I can't know everything, which means I have to listen. I have to listen to everything. What am I looking at? Where do they come from? How do they think once I get my arms around that, now I can say, this is what it sounds like to me. Yeah, this is what it feels like to me. Right. And that's a validation. And I I would say that um the second I think I'm better than somebody, uh, that's the end, that's it, it's the end of you. Yeah, there's there's no room for that. But too many people are are quick to blame themselves. I've seen it, it's it's a very ugly thing, and I'm sure your audience has seen it. I've everybody's saying it. It's like, man, selfishness is one of the ugliest things you can wear. Yeah. And uh, I think um for me, I I will never stop trying to learn the other or other person's point of view.
SPEAKER_00I love that. I a lot because I'm a big fan of we don't know everything, and we don't know what we don't know. So, you know, listen up, people. And so funny in Chicago, right?
SPEAKER_03Where where I live, I mean, the horns honk all the time. And my wife, uh, she'll be in the past, she goes, honk your horns.
SPEAKER_00Like, I'm good. No, I'm good.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what's going on over there.
SPEAKER_00I'm good. I'm trying to find one in particular. Okay. This is this is totally cheating, but I'm doing it.
SPEAKER_03It's your show. Go for it.
SPEAKER_00Oh, this is it. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Oh boy.
SPEAKER_00I'm doing this because you live in Chicago.
SPEAKER_03Okay, good.
SPEAKER_00But we're here in Detroit, and you visit Detroit all the time.
SPEAKER_03Uh, all the time. Every other week. I mean every other week. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So we're gonna end on this. Go for it. A place in Detroit that changes your mood.
SPEAKER_03Hmm. Okay. In Detroit. Now we're not talking all of Michigan.
SPEAKER_00Nope, in Detroit.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Changes my mood.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Where do you go that it's either like it's a warm hug or it makes you happy or it gets you excited? I got it.
SPEAKER_03I got it. So, you know, I'll I'll tell you it's um the Glengarry Fields in Commerce, Michigan. That's when we moved here, the kids were tiny, they were four or five, and we got them involved in Little League, and that was a birth of their friendships. That was the birth of the friends that that I became. And when we moved here from Chicago, we knew nobody. Uh, and so uh got involved in the church out there, got involved in the community, uh, and I got to watch my my children start the process of surrounding themselves with really good people. Uh and um when I drive back there, uh you know, obviously it's changed, but I think about hauling baseball and softball equipment. I I I I just remember thinking about nothing but the kids.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And that was that was fun. So I would say, yeah, Commerce, Commerce is a great, great town. Yeah, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_00And for those that are not familiar with this area, it's what maybe like a half hour from Detroit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but if you took uh you took Grand River from here over to Commerce, you're gonna see a bunch of different things. Yeah, absolutely. Uh but yeah, commerce is is awesome.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. Well, Adam, thank you so much for stopping by. Yeah, great conversation. And it's so funny because when we started, we're like, how long is it gonna be? I'm like, I don't know. We could probably just talk forever.
SPEAKER_03We can keep going, but I appreciate the time.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Thank you for walking us through your books and your thought process and um how can people buy a book?
SPEAKER_03Go to Amazon, type in Adam San Juan Books uh uh in the Amazon search engine. Okay, and you'll you'll you'll see all of those things. You know, it's interesting. We talked about what it is that I do. I I actually Googled my name for the first time in years. Yeah. And I said, what is it you're gonna say? And it says, Adam San Juan, Chicago based author. I'm like, I'll take that.
SPEAKER_00I'll take that bridge. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. So, everybody, thank you for watching Adam San Juan and I, Chicago based author.
SPEAKER_01Love it. Thank you.
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